tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-92022307077819075792024-03-12T17:47:29.177-05:00Spanish Mastiff (Mastin Espanol)Here you will find my thoughts on the Spanish Mastiff as a working livestock guard as well as a companion, my experiences over the past ten years with my many dogs and puppies as well as my goals and hopes for the breed here in the US.
I will also try to add general information on diet, health, etc. as I find it. Enjoy!Fall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-7426341131867285302013-09-20T01:31:00.003-05:002013-09-20T01:31:54.749-05:002013 Fall EventsI have once again been asked to host seminars on the effective use of Livestock Guardian Dogs and will be at the following events with some of our dogs.<br />
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<b>The 2013 National Goat Expo in Bloomington, Illinois September 26th - 29th</b><br />
The 2 hour seminar will be held on the 26th and I will be available thru the entire weekend to answer any questions or just to chat about LGD's and goats.<br />
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The National Goat Expo will include seminars and workshops on everything goat and
goat related including health, nutrition, reproduction, pasture
management, product marketability and more as well as showcasing all breeds of goats including Dairy, Fiber and Meat. <br />
http://www.nationalgoatexpo.org/index.php<br />
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<b>T<span style="font-size: small;">he Minnesota Dairy Goat Association Fall C</span>onference<span style="font-size: small;">, <span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; line-height: 115%;"> </span></span></b><br />
<b><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; line-height: 115%;">November 2, 2013, University of
Minnesota St. Paul Campus</span></span></b><br />
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<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; line-height: 115%;">I will be covering the following topics and much more at the seminars...</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; line-height: 115%;"> </span></span><br /><span class="">-A brief history of the LGD and how it's been used </span><br />
<span class="">-How the LGD functions and it's capabilities </span><br />
<span class="">-The value of an LGD to a farm operation </span><br />
<span class="">-Assessing your needs </span><br />
<span class="">-Realistic expectations &
common misconceptions </span><br />
<span class="">-An overview of the most common breeds</span><br />
<span class="">-Choosing the right breed for your needs and experience level </span><br />
<span class="">-Choosing a breeder </span><br />
<span class="">-Starting the pup </span><br />
<span class="">-Training tips </span><br />
<span class="">-Socialization</span><br />
<span class="">-Resources and groups </span><br />
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We have once again been asked to attend the <b>Badger Kennel Club Dog Fair on November 3rd </b>as the Spanish Mastiff breed representatives and will be happy to spend the day talking about one of my absolute favorite subjects!<br />
The dog fair is an informational event that gives people an opportunity to educate themselves about all the breeds of dogs and meet them face to face. There will be seminars covering health, nutrition, training and more! This event is attended yearly by thousands of people from all over the Midwest. I'm looking forward to seeing all of the familiar faces and meeting thousands of new people too. <br />
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Lois Jordan
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-31267996476291138482013-05-14T22:50:00.000-05:002013-05-14T22:50:54.910-05:00Our upcoming Spanish Mastiff litter <div style="text-align: left;">
Our F litter of Spanish Mastiff's is due any day now and I am extremely excited to finally see these lovely pups from our beautiful Zoe (Agora del Viejo Paramo) and Ivan (Iker de Picu Xiana)! I adore both of these dogs for their temperaments, personalities and working ability and am impressed by them daily (as are the thousands of people who have met them). I think that they will produce some spectacular pups!</div>
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This litter is so important for not only the genetic diversity that they will provide here in the US, since they'll be completely unrelated to all but one other dog, but for their temperaments, health and soundness as well. </div>
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Neither Zoe or Ivan have ever had any health issues whatsoever and are structurally sound with excellent movement and agility. Both are exceptional working dogs (tho Ivan still has occasional issues with the birds) and are extremely intelligent. Their temperaments are near perfect and these two are my easiest dogs to take along to all the educational and fun events we attend yearly around the Midwest. They always take the excitement of these events in stride regardless of being surrounded by hundreds to thousands of people at each one.</div>
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We gave Zoe a bath today and brought her inside in preparation of her whelping. The bath was necessary since she had had a run in with a skunk a few weeks ago! Since the weather is still unpredictable, and I like to stay close by the first two weeks in particular (I actually sleep within 15 feet of the pups), she'll have her pups in our walk in pantry which makes it easier for me to keep an eye (and ears) on things.</div>
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Zoe is not used to being inside and each time I took her outside, she has
headed straight back to the barn and pasture. She's missing her goats
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Ivan was very happy to see Zoe! </div>
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When I called Zoe to go back inside, she had to think long and hard about leaving the goats again before responding!<br />
I'll be posting lots of pictures once the pups are born!<br />
Lois Jordan
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-54041585870125320222013-03-31T00:15:00.003-05:002013-03-31T00:19:43.077-05:002013 Annual Easter Petting ZooOnce again our Spanish Mastiffs Zoe and Ivan, along with our Nigerian Dwarf goats brought much joy to hundreds and hundreds of children and parents today at the annual Easter event in Janesville, Wisconsin!<br />
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The baby goats were a huge hit with children and grown ups alike, and
everyone got such a kick out of watching the interaction between the
dogs and goats and seeing how comfortable they are with each other. It's
nice to have the opportunity to teach people about how these dogs
function with livestock on a daily basis and showing how changing their environment by taking them off the farm does not change the bond they form with each other. <br />
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We have been fortunate to be able to provide the petting zoo for this community event for many years now and enjoy it immensely. I love seeing people come back year after year and watching the children grow!<br />
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15 month old Ivan soaked up the attention from the children all day long :-) He was just a pup at last years event and since he is now over 160 lbs, there were many comments about his development!<br />
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One tired goat (Fall Creek Ariel) taking advantage of a vacated chair.<br />
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Happy Easter everyone! <br />
Lois Jordan
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-30190404801438967792012-11-29T19:23:00.000-06:002012-11-29T19:34:30.330-06:00Video's and a few pictures<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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A couple of pictures and video's I took today of Zoe (Agora del Viejo Paramo), </div>
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Ivan (Iker de Picu Xiana) and our 12 week old pup Eve playing in the pasture. It started innocently enough with the dogs up on the hill watching over the goats in the valley until Eve found a 'toy'. The toy is Zoe... ;-)</div>
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Ivan is almost 12 months old in this picture and is the image of his father!</div>
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I found it so funny the way Zoe grabs hold of Eve and then throws her off! Even so, she is always so careful regardless of how the others yank and tug on her!</div>
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http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-55911010199933488902012-10-03T02:45:00.000-05:002012-10-03T02:45:33.951-05:00Upcoming EventsI am very proud to have my dogs be the 'ambassadors' of the Spanish Mastiff breed and wanted to post about a few upcoming events where people will have the opportunity to meet a few of these amazing dogs in person! <br />
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<b><span style="color: #990000;">October 8th</span></b><br />
Last year I was asked to host a 2 hour seminar on the effective use of Livestock Guardian dogs in the Goat industry at the<b> National Goat Expo </b>being held in Des Moines, Iowa and I happily accepted since I firmly believe that Livestock Guards should be an integral part of any successful goat operation.<br />
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<b>The National Goat Expo</b> is the first ever event of it's kind and scope and will cover all things 'goat'. There will be 30+ seminars and workshops dealing with health, nutrition, breeding, marketing, etc., over 35 vendors and many shows (including 3 National shows) for Dairy, Meat and Fiber goats.<br />
http://www.nationalgoatexpo.org/index.html<br />
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I will be covering many topics in regards to Livestock Guardian dogs such as function, assessing your needs, expectations, training, socialization and support to name just a few, as well as a brief overview of various breeds.<br />
I will have at least one dog with me (in the goats pen just like at home!) and possibly two, so you will have the opportunity to meet this rare and exceptional breed!<br />
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<span style="color: #990000;"><b>On November 4th</b></span>, we will be at the <b>Badger Kennel Club 24th annual Dog Fair</b> held at the Alliant Energy Center in Madison, WI.<br />
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This is an absolutely fabulous informational event and covers all things
dog related. Seminars on nutrition, training, health, demonstrations,
etc. Dozens of vendors with excellent prices on dog supplies too! This
really is a fun event for dog lovers and is a fabulous opportunity for
those interested in learning about new breeds to meet them in person!<br />
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Over 150 dog breeds will be represented, including 25 or more rare breeds. For the ninth year,
we will once again be the breed representatives for the Spanish Mastiff.
Breeds will be set up alphabetically this year instead of in their
designated groups.<br />
Thousands of people attend this event every year and I look forward to
seeing many familiar faces and meeting thousands of new ones! If you are
in the Tri State area, be sure to stop by and say hello to Zoe and Ivan! <br />
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Lois Jordan
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-21110629873538882162012-09-26T00:18:00.001-05:002012-09-26T00:18:42.910-05:00Having to clear the air yet again...<br />
I know I said in my previous post that that was all that needed to be
said about Brenda Negri, but good Lord this woman just refuses to take her meds and grasp
hold of reality! I let it go on too long last time before addressing the outright lies she tells in her pathetic effort to make herself seem dedicated...<br />
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On one of the latest versions of her site where
she is again bashing other breeders... she talks about how others are
selling what Brenda does not believe are "real working Spanish Mastiffs"
and that the dogs are run with a "handful" of goats or a "small bunch"
of "dwarf sized show goats"<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><b> </b>(this from a woman who has </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">more then twice the number of dogs then she does sheep or goats on about 2 acres - house and out buildings included!). S</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">he
goes on to say that it's not what she would call "testing ground for
real predator issues". Brenda recently posted a picture of a
dead chihuahua and bragged about how her "real" LGD's had killed it...oh
yeah, that sure is testing those dogs against real predators!!</span><br />
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<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">Brenda
has admitted on numerous forums that the only predators she has to deal
with are dogs (you know - like that chihuahua), no wolf, coyote, bear
or mountain lion. All of which are well documented here in my area.
Wisconsin has one the largest wolf populations in the country, but we
haven't been bothered by them even when close neighbors have, because my
dogs are DOING THEIR JOBS! I have not lost a single one of my extremely
valuable "dwarf sized show goats" (most commonly known as Nigerian Dwarf
Goats - the fastest growing dairy goat breed in popularity in the US
today)</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> to any of the large coyote population here either</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">. I have seen how my dogs have reacted to bear, coyote and
mountain lion and THAT is what I would call "tested" against real
predators!</span><br />
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><br /></span>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">She says that I spend </span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">more
time showing my goats than I do focusing on my dogs because (according
to Brenda who has never been to my farm) my dogs are not my top
priority. Really!? My dogs are <u>healthy</u>, active,</span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> well socialized and </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">trained for the work they do 24/7 (because 4 of my dogs live with the goats - not just thrown into a small pen with them for photos). </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"> In other words - they are doing exactly what they are bred and trained to do. </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">I
didn't purchase my livestock so I could claim that my Spanish Mastiff's
are working (like Brenda did), I purchased the breed to protect the
investment I have in my herd like any responsible farmer would/should. </span></span><br />
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><br /></span></span>
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">I certainly do more educational events with my dogs every year than goats shows! I take the dogs out there in public so thousands of people can meet them every year and learn first hand about the breed and see them in person! This is documented, and there is no one in this country who has made this kind of effort to educate the public about the breed. </span></span><br />
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">My adult daughter takes care of the animals when I am
gone for the day at a show (a whole FOUR times this year!)</span></span><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">.</span></span><br />
<span style="letter-spacing: 0px;"><span style="letter-spacing: 0px;">I
have lost two puppies out of FIVE litters because of my focus on my
dogs health and well-being. Brenda lost 7 or 8 from one litter alone
shortly after they were born...maybe she was too busy on the computer to
focus on the whelping mother...</span></span><br />
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Speaking of focus and priority, Brenda recently posted truly horrifying pictures of an emaciated Patron who has been sick for about 10 months now. You can count every rib. The poor dog looks like he just escaped Auschwitz, but unfortunately for him, he is still there...<br />
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Patron is brother to my wonderful dog Zoe, and Brenda is now suggesting <u>possible</u> genetic issues for his problems. For all her claims of vet care, I seriously have my doubts based on comments she made elsewhere as well as her lack of knowledge about some of the basic suggestions others made to her in an effort to help the dog. If she had taken him to all, or any of the vets and specialists she claims, they would have figured this out by now through blood tests, biopsies, x-rays, etc...Maybe Brenda believes that she is a vet now... Hard telling.<br />
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feels great for his condition actually. We've tried everything, for
everything....not even special food helps. Of course have dewormed him
numerous times, all the time....tried holistic stuff, meds, etc. I just
put him on Sulfa and Metro and a steroid now and then for a bit and it
helps some but then stops working. But he works, plays, runs....just
about 50 pds too light although at one point Mel he was too fat - 210!
HUGE....just too heavy for working dog. So he's about 40 pds off here
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I do wonder if that might be what he has. Big guy eats all the time.
Nothing stays in him. Like I said elsewhere if he were in pain, or
suffering, it'd be one thing thank God however he is upbeat and he plays
and works and dotes on the puppies. Does not seem to ever be in pain. <b><span style="background-color: yellow;">(doesn't even know enough about the breed to realize how stoic they are and the incredibly HIGH pain tolerance they have!?)</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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done the yogurt like I said probiotics - it does not work. This is
where you wonder about genetics.... He lost a litter brother in Spain
at 8 months to bloat. He has a sister here in Wisconsin who contacted
Leptovirus and could no longer breed.<b> <span style="background-color: yellow;">(and just WHERE would you get information like that Brenda since my vet told me that there should be no issues!? Are the aliens speaking to you again?)</span></b> Methinks this particular litter
might not have had the most hardy or tough of immune systems and
constitutions. That's three pups out of a litter with some serious
stuff. I do wonder about that anyway....<b><span style="background-color: yellow;">(please make note of this interesting comment for later...)</span></b></span></span></span></div>
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have tried special foods to no avail. Even just feeding him sweet
potatoes and meat, or yams or rice and chicken. It is beyond allergies.
I have tried sensitive stomach food </span></span><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">too
(at $80 a bag!?!?! Gads) - made it worse. </span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">His sister in Wisconsin is
not right. She cannot conceive,<b> <span style="background-color: yellow;">(REALLY Brenda!? That's news to me since she DID in fact conceive!)</span> </b>she has or had, leptovirus<b>. <span style="background-color: yellow;"> (Finally! A bit of truth! Not something Brenda is too familiar with, but of course she found the information on my website... As I posted on my site earlier this year, the dogs got Leptospirosis from the resident raccoons that infested the barn at my new farm. Zoe and Aislinn both re-absorbed their litters from their December breeding's which is how we discovered the problem. It was caught quickly, all the dogs were since vaccinated for it, all had blood panels run afterward to determine if there was any long term effects and all counts are normal. The update on this situation was also posted on my website.)</span></b> They have
tried something like four times now to breed her and she won't take. I
know for a fact they bred her not long ago because they were planning on
a litter about now and nope, she did not take again. So there is
something not right with Patron's sister. <b><span style="background-color: yellow;">(You know it for a <u>FACT</u> do you?? How is that Brenda? I certainly wouldn't give you the info, s</span></b></span></span></span></span></span><b><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">o how do you "know for a fact"? I think you have it confused with all the times you have tried to breed your own dogs unsuccessfully. Since Zoe is not yet 3 years old, your twisted version would have had me trying to breed her at one year old. Even tho YOU have tried to breed bitches at 14 months old, it is not something that I would ever do! </span></span></span></span></span></span></b><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">We bred Zoe at the beginning of June last year, but missed it due to the Holiday when her levels peaked. We bred her again at Christmas</span></span></span></span></span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]"> at which time she took, but lost the litter in January. That makes 2 times - not 4. She did not get bred on her last cycle because I didn't want to risk having 3 litters at the same time.</span></span></span></span></span></span></b></div>
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<b><span style="background-color: yellow;"><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">Your comment should read "So there is something not right with Patron's" owner... Now that would be what most would call a verifiable FACT!</span></span></span></span></span><span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]"> </span></span></span></span></span></span></b></div>
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<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]"><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343703}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[3]..[0]">The breeder in Spain lost a
littermate brother at 8 months to gastric torsion. I am beginning to
think the immune system on this particular litter was anything but
great. That is three pups with something wrong out of a litter. Not
good...? <span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>(here is that comment again...)</b></span> The mother is shown a lot. She seems to be doing fine. I
don't hear much about Patron's father anymore, Nistos. Have no idea
what he is doing or if he has thrown any pups with odd disorders.
Language barrier plus no one wants to talk about this stuff it seems. <span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>(So many Europeans have watched your antics here and have little interest in having anything they might say being twisted into something it never was!)</b></span>
Like HD they want to all brush it under the rug. This is a magnificent
breed but it has its problems like most breeds do.</span></span></span></span></span></div>
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Should mention I am trying salt tablets on him and his fluid intake has
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out asleep in front of the wood stove in the house. In fact recently (I
think due to the pups being out and about) he has increased night time
guarding activity and is barking and running at night a lot....much more
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there it is! </b></span></span></span></span><br />
<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[0]"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>This is the comment that - sadly, did not surprise me at all!
She repeatedly talks about his poor health, the imagined issues in the bloodlines, poor
genetics, etc. but has already tried to breed him TWICE while he is in
this horrendous condition, and plans to do it again, all the while <u>SHE</u> believes that
it is genetic??? </b></span></span></span></span><br />
<span data-ft="{"tn":"K"}" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]"><span class="UFICommentBody" id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]."><span id=".reactRoot[11].[1][2][1]{comment455111877867098_1343717}..[1]..[1]..[0].[2]..[0]"><span style="background-color: yellow;"><b>It says alot about her dedication to the breed and her own dogs that she would even attempt to breed a dog that <u>she</u> believes is predisposed to some sort of immune deficiency as well as having no qualms about putting a dog whose health is already compromised through the rigors of breeding doesn't it? </b></span></span></span></span><br />
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It would be truly wonderful for the poor dogs in Brenda's care if she would stop playing these stupid games and make it a PRIORITY to FOCUS on the health and well being of her own dogs...Unfortunately, I don't see that happening since it would mean cutting into her own profit! Just like any puppy mill would, she has already proved that she is more than willing to jeopardize her own dogs to make a buck, such as evidenced above and her willingness to breed her bitches back to back even after delivering larger litters.<br />
There should be an addendum on Brenda's website that states UNLESS THERE IS MONEY INVOLVED "I rest my bitches between litters, breed selectively and never "puppy mill" litters"...<br />
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Such a shame.<br />
Lois Jordan
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-9665136926922889522012-08-30T23:07:00.000-05:002012-09-10T22:48:19.618-05:00Congratulations are in order!This is overdue and I apologize for not posting this sooner, but I was having trouble with my Google account!<br />
I want to commend Norma Roman-Ortiz for her incredible devotion and dedication to our wonderful breed! I am so proud of what she has accomplished with our pup Diva (call name Tatyana)! Diva is only the second Spanish Mastiff in the USA to earn her Canine Good Citizen certificate (CGC)! Anyone who is familiar with the Spanish Mastiff breed and the LGD personality understands how challenging this can be! The fact that the Spanish Mastiff was bred to work independently of their owners coupled with their intelligence and stubbornness proves this accomplishment monumental!<br />
Could Canine Therapy work be in Norma and Diva's future???<br />
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A well trained, well behaved Spanish Mastiff that is out and about in public with their owner does more to educate the public and promote the breed than any written word ever could. <br />
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I am also very proud to announce that Diva is the first Spanish Mastiff to earn a
Champion title in the USA! Norma has been showing her on the east coast
in ARBA (American Rare Breed Association) shows and is doing a fabulous job there too!<br />
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Not to make light of her work in the show ring, but I am so incredibly impressed with Diva's CGC certificate - especially considering her mother Delilah's sometimes daunting intelligence and independent nature!<br />
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Congratulations to you Norma and thank you for providing Diva such a wonderful home!<br />
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http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-76332656416836125092012-01-10T12:04:00.001-06:002012-05-31T16:35:38.045-05:00Clearing the air in the New YearBecause I honestly believe that most people have the intelligence to see through someone like Brenda M.Negri, I have avoided addressing any of the absolutely ridiculous lies and wild claims she has made about myself as well as any other person who has bred a litter of Spanish Mastiff's in this country in the past year.<br />
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The only reason I'm even bothering at this point is that I honestly feel sorry for the people who may be too trusting or for those it simply hasn't occurred to to DO THE RESEARCH! I know that I have talked to many people who have been in contact with her and can only shake my head in disbelief at the stories they tell me! Considering the number of wild allegations she has made against breeders here, she has never once backed up a single innuendo or statement with any proof, regardless of all the times she has been asked. It's simply because none of it actually exists other than in Brenda's twisted and sick mind! One person on the LGD-L list summed it up accurately in a reply to yet another one of Brenda's ridiculous posts "If you can prove that to me, then I will believe these kind of sweeping allegations you make that have no base." (I can forward the thread to anyone who is interested.)<br />
The Internet is an interesting place, but just because one person writes it on Facebook, doesn't mean that there is any actual truth to it! <br />
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Though some people will always prefer to believe the sensational lies over the actual facts, I'm sure it simply hasn't occurred to others to actually question the garbage they are being fed. The truth is out there for all to see if they only take a few minutes to look. Those are the people this post is aimed at so you don't have to go through what so many others have when dealing with this nutcase. DO THE RESEARCH on any breeder first! Enter a breeders name as well as their kennel name and READ what actually comes up. Be prepared because Brenda uses many, many screen names! I can tell you that the only negative you will see written about me is from Brenda herself. Brenda can NOT say the same. There is a reason she has been blocked, moderated or kicked off of almost every livestock guardian dog forum and Spanish Mastiff forum out there! And it certainly isn't because she is misunderstood~!<br />
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As long as you don't disagree with her, offer up an opinion different than her own, question her, suggest that she's wrong or tell her no, you may never have a problem with her. If you do, read any of these links to discover how viciously she attacks and belittles those that do...There is a pattern here that has become apparent to most everyone who has had any dealings with her both here and in EU. There are more, but you'll get the gist of it...<br />
<a href="http://edgefieldsheep.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3728" target="_blank">http://edgefieldsheep.com/bb/<wbr></wbr>viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3728</a><br />
<span style="color: red;"></span><a href="http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SpanishMastiff/message/1612" target="_blank">http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/<wbr></wbr>group/SpanishMastiff/message/<wbr></wbr>1612</a><br />
<a href="http://www.backyardherds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=11525&p=7" target="_blank">http://www.backyardherds.com/<wbr></wbr>forum/viewtopic.php?id=11525&<wbr></wbr>p=7</a><br />
Brenda has snapped like a rabid dog at every hand in the LGD community that has been extended to her in friendship and help.<br />
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Brenda keeps claiming that she is raising the bar when it comes to breeding Spanish Mastiffs in the US and the question that begs asking is HOW exactly is she doing so? She plans to breed the same bloodlines that others have numerous times before her over the years, she has not bred a single litter and yet she claims that hers will somehow be miraculously better than the very dogs she is reviling all over the Internet!? She says that most all the other dogs bred here "lack type, bone and wrinkle", yet they are out of the same lines that Brenda plans on breeding herself, lines that 5 of Brenda's dogs came from! She blasts Anne Lattimer-Goetz' dogs and yet they are the same bloodlines as hers, and in fact were sired by the father of THREE of Brenda's dogs. Do the research folks! Apparently Brenda is banking (literally) on no one having the intelligence to see through her lies!<br />
She has no breeding plans posted that have not already been done here over the past 10 years. Maybe the reason she doesn't post extended pedigrees on her dogs is because people would quickly realize the truth of the matter. I have always wondered if Brenda would ever catch on to the fact that by bashing all the dogs here, she is in fact bashing her own future puppies!? <br />
Raising the bar Brenda? I don't think so.<br />
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She claims that she is the first Spanish Mastiff breeder in the US to x-ray their dogs hips??? No, you are not! I've had dogs x-rayed, Anne Lattimer, Joe Himmelberg, Kymberly Hudson and Karin Graefe have all had dogs x-rayed at one time or another too. Brenda is not doing anything that hasn't been done here already over the years!<br />
Brenda "raising the bar"? Not hardly! <br />
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As for Brenda's claim that I "don't believe in x-rays", that is just more of her twisting words into something they never were. What I have said is that though I think it is a fine tool for breeders, I don't believe it is the be all / end all, and that I am more impressed by fluid movement and correct legs with proper angulations. You can take two dogs with good hips and produce dogs with poor hips. That is a fact. You can also take a dog with poor hips, breed it to a dog with good hips and never have a case of HD in the resulting offspring. There is not enough background information available on any of the dogs in EU to determine if HD may or may not crop up a few generations down the line and frankly, some results are suspected to be false anyway. There are many contributing factors to HD other than genetics (environment, diet, etc). <br />
All of this was in a discussion on the Spanish Mastiff Yahoo group and can be verified. (BTW, Brenda managed to be the first person to ever be kicked off of this group!)<br />
<a href="http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SpanishMastiff/message/1321" target="_blank">http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/<wbr></wbr>group/SpanishMastiff/message/<wbr></wbr>1321</a><br />
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I would be more inclined to get a dog that has a single parent with a moderate rating than I would from parents with good ratings that lack adequate angulations or are cow-hocked. I had a dog with the same type of poor legs that many of Brenda's dogs exhibit, talked to other owners of dogs with similar issues and we all saw those dogs breaking down and / or crippled beginning as young as 3 years old. Do you honestly believe that I care that my dog x-rayed with good hips when she couldn't get up without struggle because of her poor rear legs??? The difference is that my dog wasn't bred, while Brenda plans to breed all of hers regardless of being cautioned over and over about the probable consequences and being told of what the rest of us dealt with. The same issues, heartbreak and expense that those who buy pups from her will likely have to deal with as well. <br />
Yes, I do take issue with that sort of callous disregard for both the breed AND the people who will suffer along with their dogs! She downplays the structural faults on some of her dogs and says that her dogs movement is "sloppy" and that they are "outgrowing" their cow hocks. At 14-16 months old, an SM should not have "sloppy" movement and dogs don't "outgrow" structural faults such as these. <br />
I talk at length about these subjects on my blog because I feel very strongly about the very problems Brenda tries to make seem insignificant.<br />
<a href="http://spanishmastiffs.blogspot.com/2011/10/evaluating-structure-of-spanish-mastiff_23.html" target="_blank">http://spanishmastiffs.<wbr></wbr>blogspot.com/2011/10/<wbr></wbr>evaluating-structure-of-<wbr></wbr>spanish-mastiff_23.html</a><br />
Hell, she even plans to breed a dog that (according to Brenda) has an "atrophied leg"! Will the money she makes from those puppies justify what she will put the dam through to carry a litter?<br />
Good luck folks, because Brenda doesn't believe in contracts, which means you won't have a leg to stand on! She has also stated over and over that she doesn't do spay/neuter contracts and "if someone buys a dog from her, it is theirs to do with what they want". Can ANYONE tell me how it can be good for the breed to have non-breeding quality pups bred!!? <br />
'Raising the bar' Brenda? No. Not in this lifetime!<br />
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Brenda has falsely claimed that I am out to make a quick buck off these dogs. That I am "cranking out litters" and that I am a "puppy mill"... What a crock! I have had Spanish Mastiffs for NINE years and have had FOUR litters! Brenda has not even had the breed for two years yet and plans to breed FOUR Spanish Mastiff litters this year alone (8 litters total according to her)! So with the facts laid out, tell me who do you think is really "looking to make a fast buck" off of selling puppies and who is the puppy mill??? Do the research folks!<br />
She goes on and on about the prices charged by others... Yet I've sold pups for less than what she has listed for any of her planned litters long before Brenda ever came on the scene and I can tell you that I sure wouldn't sell an unregistered pup for the $1500 Brenda's asking! What about her supposed 'Boz' Shepard's priced at $2700? hmmm. <br />
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And since I mentioned it (and Brenda never stops mentioning it), in regards to the pup I made the colossal mistake of selling to her that she keeps saying is unregistered...Brenda got the paperwork (I have copies and her signature from USPS), she just never bothered to send it in to FCI! According to her, she has not registered any of her imports, yet why does she continually harp on one dog but not the others? Because it is nothing more than an effort to deceive others into believing yet another lie... I also asked to take the pup back from Brenda and she refused. Maybe because she knew that I could have undone the damage she did and turned that dog around and made her into a good LGD? That wouldn't have suited Brenda's purposes. She states that the dog lacks "type" yet she looks exactly like her grand-dam Florita (mother to Brenda's brindle male)! <br />
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Like most cons, I will grant you that she is very talented at reading people and telling them what she thinks they want to hear. I initially fell for her lies as well and was incredibly surprised when she originally put up her website and I discovered just how thoroughly she had deceived me and the sheer number of lies she had told. She is a chameleon that changes her story depending on who she is talking to or what forum she happens to be on. <br />
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She will talk about how her dogs would "attack a child running towards her gates just like an adult" on one forum, and yet writes on her site that they are child safe! She writes about how her dogs are socialized, but then states on another forum that she seldom gets visitors so her dogs are aggressive towards strangers. How do you socialize a dog without people?<br />
What so many experienced LGD owners and breeders find worrisome is Brenda's continued use of scare tactics (the big, bad mega wolf) and her promotion of aggressive LGD's and fighting dogs to deal with them. Her lack of knowledge on how LGD's really function and her lack of experience will lead to disaster as pointed out here. <a href="http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SpanishMastiff/message/1608" target="_blank">http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/<wbr></wbr>group/SpanishMastiff/message/<wbr></wbr>1608</a> <br />
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As for her claims that my dogs use ramps, that particular fabrication came from this thread <a href="http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/SpanishMastiff/message/1509" target="_blank">http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/<wbr></wbr>group/SpanishMastiff/message/<wbr></wbr>1509</a> This just shows just how Brenda twists any innocent thing said...<br />
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Most of what Brenda states is just too ridiculous to even bring up except for the amusement factor...<br />
Like my adding a thousand hits to my site every night! Too funny! The problem with that bit of nonsense, is that 1) it doesn't happen and 2) it's not possible for me to change my counter. It reads one ISP and will only register/add that ISP one time regardless of how often that person returns to the site. Could it be Brenda projecting her own lack of integrity and dishonesty onto others again??? Accusing others of what she is guilty of herself? She does tend to do that quite a bit!<br />
She is continually claiming conversations that never took place, "Lois said this" or "Lois said that" yet I haven't spoken with this nut in well over a year! Lets see the records of these supposed phone calls Brenda! Even when you've had people call me to try to get information, I don't waste my time talking about something as inconsequential as you. <br />
Her claims that I have 'bad mouthed breeders on my website" is just more projection by her! She's the only one that has been doing that! <br />
According to her, I'm jealous of her, well respected breeders in Spain are jealous of her, Kangal breeders are jealous of her, people in the LGD community are jealous of her (people who have been working with all LGD breeds for decades), people who breed mixed LGD's are jealous of her. Maybe she needs her medications adjusted again...I hear that paranoia is a symptom of mental illness. <br />
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Just for giggles, I love where she claims 40 years of ranching experience here<br />
<a href="http://edgefieldsheep.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3715" target="_blank">http://edgefieldsheep.com/bb/<wbr></wbr>viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3715</a><br />
I wonder when all that happened? I don't recall there being alot of big ranching operations in Laguna Beach, CA where she was raised? Since she is only in her 50's, was that before or after she worked for a legal office, the TSA, CA. Highway Patrol or unemployed while living off her mother's income and 2 acre hobby farm (oops, sorry! Ranch) the past five years or so?<br />
She says that she is the first to bring over a dog from del Viejo Paramo. Big surprise... NOT TRUE! I referred her to them after I bought my female and was actually nice enough to put Brenda's dog from the same kennel on a plane and send him to her when I picked up my girl! She has actually only brought over 2 dogs so far that aren't related to dogs that were already here.<br />
As for Brenda's ridiculous claim about my dogs not working? Too stupid for words! Anyone and everyone that has been to my farm will tell you the truth of the matter. At my old farm, the goats free ranged 24 acres along with my dogs and birds, at night they were locked into their own pasture. Some dogs would be in the pasture with them, some had perimeter duty. Some got to sleep in the house. Photos have been on my site for years and anyone with a lick of sense can see that my dogs do in fact work. The goats and birds would not be comfortable with them if they didn't. Since we've moved to our new farm, the goats and dogs are confined to their 9 acre pasture with the exception of our two house dogs (who have always been house dogs).<br />
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What does it say about Brenda as a 'breeder' (and I use the term loosely!) and as a person who claims to be devoted to the breed, that she has done her utmost to try to turn what has been a wonderful and positive experience for so many owners and breeders here in the US and make it appear to be something ugly and negative. What kind of legacy is that?<br />
Everything I have said here can be verified with copies of e-mails and links (many, many more than the few I've posted here). I'll be happy to provide them. Can Brenda show proof of even a single one of her accusations? No.<br />
She doesn't know the meaning of the words integrity or honesty.<br />
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A little interesting background information on Brenda M. Negri. I don't know if the author is 'all there' either but she profiled Brenda to a T and we are obviously seeing the same tactics employed by her in regard to myself and other breeders here in the US.<br />
<a href="http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2010/12/profile-of-tsa-criminally-insane.html" target="_blank">http://barbarahartwellvscia.<wbr></wbr>blogspot.com/2010/12/profile-<wbr></wbr>of-tsa-criminally-insane.html</a><br />
From another post that I unfortunately find quite believable based on my own experiences with her. "Negri's mother, her fifteen year old son and others have expressed their concern to witnesses over what they described as Negri's "unstable" mental condition, apparent paranoid delusions and bizarre behavior."<b><br />
</b> <a href="http://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2007/01/just-facts-report-on-brenda-negri-aka.html" target="_blank">http://barbarahartwellvscia.<wbr></wbr>blogspot.com/2007/01/just-<wbr></wbr>facts-report-on-brenda-negri-<wbr></wbr>aka.html</a><b><br />
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Lois Jordan http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-62656015248042636832011-12-30T17:39:00.004-06:002011-12-30T17:43:13.993-06:00AislinnI'm feeling pretty confident that the breeding between Aislinn and Logan took! She has been acting very clingy the past week. Since I have quite a few farms waiting for pups from this breeding, I'm really hoping she'll give us more than a single pup this time! Hilary in particular is very excited, since Aislinn is her dog and she'll have primary care of the litter. I am so proud of what a fabulous job Hilary always does with the pups!<br />
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Here are a few pics of our single pup Cooper that Aislinn and Logan gave us in late January of 2011. He was a hugely popular little guy!<br />
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http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-8107982453733234532011-12-25T16:58:00.001-06:002011-12-27T00:52:17.811-06:00Breeding Zoe and LeonI thought I would post a quick note to wish everyone a wonderful Christmas and a happy and healthy New Year. I am visiting my friends Steve and Edna Moreno here in Colorado over Christmas weekend while we hope for the best Christmas present... A successful breeding between Zoe to Leon (Romulo de Campollano)! Her timing could have been better since I would have preferred to be home for Christmas, but I am having a wonderful time with Steve and Edna and have been welcomed like family. They are such wonderful friends to have opened their house and shared their holiday with me :-) It is appreciated!<br />
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Hopefully we will see this trip come to fruition in late February! This is a breeding we've planned since we imported Zoe from Spain and after seeing the two of them together, we can't help but be even more excited about the possible puppies!<br />
One thing I can say with assurance is that any pups between Zoe and Leon will be heavy boned, have skin to spare, great movement and be extremely large!<br />
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This will be only the second litter of pure Spanish lines born here in the US in well over 5 years. Very exciting and important for the genetic diversity they will bring! (See my blog post from 10/3 about the lack of genetic diversity here). These pups will be the only litter expected to be born in 2012 that will be unrelated to almost all of the Spanish Mastiff's here in the US. In fact, they will be unrelated to all but 8 Spanish Mastiffs currently in the US (Leon sired a litter out of Gitana).<br />
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I hope to keep two, but I have had people waiting for over a year for pups from Zoe, so we will see...<br />
Merry Christmas!<br />
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http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-60520089720642638232011-11-30T00:44:00.000-06:002011-11-30T00:44:08.033-06:00Our 'D' LitterThe last of our D litter will be leaving this week and we will be so sad to see Dakota leave.<br />
I have been so fortunate to have been able to spend so much time with this litter and appreciate all the effort and devotion my daughter Hilary put in as well. I know how difficult it will be for her to say good-bye to Dakota...<br />
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I am so pleased with the new homes all of my puppies found and welcome 9 new people to the wonderful world of the Spanish Mastiff! The feedback from everyone has been so heart warming and I feel we did a very good job of matching up the right pups with the right people.<br />
As one new owner put it "Their appeal should be considered a controlled substance" (as she prepares for the arrival of her second Spanish Mastiff pup)... I did warn her that the breed is addictive!!<br />
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The puppies that have gone to working farms are doing very well in their jobs and two have made the adjustment from goats to cattle very quickly (the others are still with goats). <br />
Kudos to Norma and Laura for getting their pups enrolled in puppy training classes so quickly! At the rate Norma is going with Diva, I can see that girl earning her CGC in no time at all! Could there be therapy work in that pups future???<br />
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Thank you all and continue to enjoy your dogs! I am so happy to have "shared the love" of this magnificent breed with each and every one of you. <br />
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Lois Jordan http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-57257918543647256672011-11-21T03:31:00.000-06:002011-11-21T03:31:20.936-06:00The new farmThe move to the new farm is pretty well complete now and we are loving the new place!<br />
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We are in a fabulous old farmhouse that has been well maintained (new roof, septic, electric, etc). The house has hardwood floors throughout and a walk in pantry that I find so cool!<br />
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Both the animals and I are absolutely wild about the barn (I think I talk about the barn more than the house LOL!) and we have it set up very nicely for the animals and our own convenience. I would also like to add that it too has a new roof! ;-)<br />
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The does indoor pen is about 10x100 feet and has it's own private entrance/exit to their 8 acre pasture. The bucks are being housed at the far end of the barn in one of the 5 box stalls already built in for the winter (so we can do all the chores inside!) and they also have their own pasture fenced off temporarily. The bucks will be moved to a separate building on the property in the spring (what used to be a hog shed). The birds are penned in another large box stall that we enclosed with netting until they get used to this being their new home. <br />
The dogs have the run of it all!<br />
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Lois Jordan http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-71292199812656023802011-10-23T01:24:00.002-05:002011-10-23T01:38:13.459-05:00Evaluating the structure of the Spanish Mastiff<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">I am re-posting this topic and have added some photos to illustrate. I briefly touched on the subject of structure issues we are facing here in my 10/3/11 post about the Spanish Mastiff in the US, but it's a subject I have been vocal about for at least 7 years... </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Due to many calls and e-mails requesting more information, I decided to talk a little more about structure as well as the benefits of using puppy structure evaluations as a tool to help determine which pups should be sold as potential breeding dogs and which should be sold to non-breeding homes. Not every pup produced is breeding quality, and such pups, for the good of the breed, should be taken out of the breeding pool. Structure evaluations help determine which pups that should be. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">It has been proven that what you see at 8 weeks is an accurate snapshot of what the puppy will be as an adult. The evaluations are done in a strange place when the puppies are eight weeks old, and are done by someone who is unfamiliar to the puppies. They compare each category (head, body, ears, front, rear, etc) to the standard. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">To date, there is only one or two of us that have actually raised pups we've produced to adulthood and so been able to evaluate the 'finished' dog. So in all honesty, there really isn't a single owner or breeder in this country with enough practical Spanish Mastiff experience to accurately evaluate the structure of their litters without professional assistance at this time. The fact is that any breeder will have a variety of quality within any given litter (regardless of the parents!). It's what a responsible breeder does about that variety (ie: selling pups as breeding or non-breeding) that will help determine the future of the breed here. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Common sense tells us that for a giant breed dog of any type, structure would be critical. For a giant WORKING breed, it is even more so! There is alot of weight that must be supported by the dogs frame and if the frame has faults such as cow-hocked legs, lack of angulation in the rear legs or poor top-lines, the dog will naturally try to compensate and thus put added stress on other parts of the body. </span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Problems arise when one part has to overwork or compensate for lack of </span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">balance, injury or weakness in another. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">It would be similar to a human with a foot or leg injury shifting their weight away from the offending limb and then complaining of back and hip aches!</span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">The Spanish Mastiff is better able to disguise the impact/affects of some of these structural problems simply because of their muscle mass and their high levels of pain tolerance, but it doesn't mean that the problems don't exist and won't cause the dog to breakdown eventually. </span><br />
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The structure issues below are readily apparent to evaluators by the time a pup is 8 weeks old and as breeders we can use this information to place our puppies in the correct situations and homes. </span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">It's really up to the potential puppy buyer to educate themselves on what to look for in any breed of dog, but in the case of the Spanish Mastiff, they are at a disadvantage due to the amount of misinformation that is still out there on the web concerning this breed.</span><br />
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<div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><a href="http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAMD7RVGiCDB4QkAGbwSryXoEaim1r9_e6lWGnOQkHx8fs6yzXUw" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><img alt="" border="0" class="rg_hi" data-height="277" data-width="152" height="200" id="rg_hi" src="http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAMD7RVGiCDB4QkAGbwSryXoEaim1r9_e6lWGnOQkHx8fs6yzXUw" style="height: 277px; width: 152px;" width="109" /></span></a></div><div style="border-bottom: medium none; border-left: medium none; border-right: medium none; border-top: medium none;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Cow hocks can occur either because of a slight turning out of the entire leg from the hip (as was the case with my first SM), or because of twisting of the hock and stifle joints. Cow hocks are an indication of weakness in an area that requires great strength. At the end of the stride, the entire propulsive power of the dog is transmitted through one hock joint. At a run, both joints direct the force together, but the force is much greater. When jumping, even more energy is required to lift and propel the body, and the hocks bear it all. Cow hocks can pre-dispose a dog to hip, ankle and stifle problems. Bottom line, a cow hocked dog is jeopardised. It may give the appearance of agility to an untrained eye, but it won't hold up well over time.</span></div><br />
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<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-blbyx1SQums/TqOgxPIq4HI/AAAAAAAAAAk/auR1igM1ntE/s1600/angulations.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; cssfloat: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" closure_uid_dz10c="91" rda="true" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-blbyx1SQums/TqOgxPIq4HI/AAAAAAAAAAk/auR1igM1ntE/s1600/angulations.jpg" /></a><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"></span></div><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Lack of rear angulation is an area that needs work in our breed</span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">. <span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Rear angulation is determined primarily by the amount of angle from the pelvis to the spine and how much it will rotate between attachment points. The photo at left (courtesy of Carlos Salas in Spain) shows ideal rear leg angulations. You can see from the illustrations exactly how those proper angulations support the frame. As Carlos stated in a post today "<span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="123" tc="null">This harmony</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="124" tc="null">enables</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="125" tc="null">efficient</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="126" tc="null">swing mechanics</span> <span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="128" tc="null">effortlessly with every stride</span><span class="hps" closure_uid_hjsu3w="136" tc="null">." </span></span></span><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">A dog that is under-angulated in the pelvic region simply cannot move his rear end properly or bring the rear forward far enough in the 'stride' simply because the pelvis can only rotate so much. </span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Dogs that have straight rear legs (photo at right) have less shock absorption, while well angulated dogs would not transmit as much of the movement stress to the hip joint, as more of the trauma is absorbed by the hock and knee.</span> </span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">You will also note that dogs with poor rear angulations will invariably have a rump that is substantially higher than the shoulder. </span></span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">A dog with poor rear angulation requires nearly twice the force of movement than a dog with proper angulations. That is <u>not</u> efficient in a working dog. If we are to preserve the working ability of the Spanish Mastiff, lack of angulation and cow-hocks must be taken more seriously! I am not saying that a dog with poor rear legs can't work for a time, but they will not work efficiently and they will break down at a younger age. A dog needs lots of strength and power in their rear ends. That's their engine! A weak rear in a dog is like putting a go cart engine in a truck and expecting it to haul big loads.</span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">In evaluations they actually measure the angles of the pelvis to the spine and the ground. They do the same with the shoulder area, using their hands to feel and measure the angulation.</span></span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">Some of these are issues that we are seeing too often in the Mastin Espanol and I truly believe that more emphasis needs to be placed on improving or breeding these faults out. Structure evaluations are an excellent tool to help us do just that. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">All three of these mentioned above (Cow-hocks, poor angulation and high rumps) are all considered serious faults according to the standard.</span></span><br />
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<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">I am not necessarily saying throw the baby out with the bathwater, but anyone considering breeding must be aware of the issues and plan their breeding's accordingly, using only dogs that excel in those areas that your dog lacks. Breeding two dogs that both have issues with their rear ends (even if they are different issues) will only perpetuate the problem! Breeders have to be honest about the strengths and weaknesses of their own dogs and not downplay or make excuses for them. </span><br />
<span style="font-family: "Trebuchet MS", sans-serif;">It sounds like basic common sense, but when we have such a lack of genetic diversity in this country, some might be tempted to use what they have available, regardless of faults, and hope for the best. </span><br />
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<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">For those of us that have had dogs with any of these leg issues, watched them struggle to get up as they reached maturity and arthritis set in to those joints (as young as 3 years old), or spent thousands on pain meds or surgeries, not adding these dogs to the breeding gene pool was a no brainer!</span><br />
<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS;">I was very heartened to see discussion on this subject from Spanish breeders this week as well! It's a positive step!</span><br />
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Lois Jordan http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-2536725838951996442011-10-10T00:24:00.001-05:002011-10-10T00:30:10.548-05:00Spanish Mastiff Registration Process in the USI just wanted to touch briefly on this subject because there appears to be much confusion about registering the Spanish Mastiff (Mastin Espanol) here in the US. To date, there hasn't been a uniform method of dealing with registrations here and we are working on changing that. Some have registered their dogs FCPR (myself included), a few have been registered with the UKC, and my best guess is that many imports have not been registered at all. <br />
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What I have discovered over the years is that when a buyer imports a dogs from EU, they will receive an Export Pedigree or application issued by the Fédération Cynologique Internationale (which is the World Canine Organisation). FCI includes 86 members and contract partners (one member per country) that each issue their own pedigrees and train their own judges. When new owners get these papers, many believe that the pups are in fact 'registered' and don't realize that those papers are not actually valid here in the US until a few more steps are taken since the United States is not a member country of the Fédération Cynologique Internationale.<br />
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When I registered my litters, I sent in the litter registration to the correct federated member of FCI (Federación Canófila de Puerto Rico), they return the individual registration applications for each pup for me to fill out, sign, and forward to the new puppy owners who, in turn, must sign it themselves and return it to FCPR. There is no other way to do this because the new owner is required to fill out certain fields on the application! Otherwise the animal ends up registered to me...<br />
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If breeding, the sire of the litter must first be registered with FCPR and then accepted into the FCPR stud book. I learned this by trial and error last year! Luckily when we repeated a successful breeding, all of this was already done so registering our latest litter was almost effortless!<br />
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We have already begun the breed recognition process with the AKC and they have now been accepted into the FSS (Foundation Stock Service) so Spanish Mastiff's may now be registered AKC too. I'll write more on this when I have successfully registered mine there as well.<br />
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If anyone has any questions about this, feel free to contact me and I will be more than happy to walk you through it.<br />
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Lois Jordan <br />
http://www.fallcreekfarm.netFall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-76348907834706858662011-10-04T15:07:00.000-05:002011-10-04T15:07:42.933-05:00Skunk remedy (it's that time of year!)<span style="font-size: medium;">Since Clara and Cleo just got skunked on Saturday, I thought this info might be helpful to others. Luckily, I wasn't home when it happened to my girls so I didn't have to deal with it LOL! Poor Hilary!</span><br />
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<span style="font-size: medium;">The Skunk Remedy Recipe </span><br />
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In a plastic bucket, mix well the following ingredients: <br />
1 quart of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide <br />
1/4 cup of baking soda <br />
1 to 2 teaspoons liquid soap <br />
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for very large pets one quart of tepid tap water may be added to enable complete coverage. <br />
Wash pet promptly and thoroughly, work the solution deep into the fur. Let your nose guide you, leave the solution on about 5 minutes or until the odor is gone. Some heavily oiled areas may require a "rinse and repeat" washing. <br />
Skunks usually aim for the face, but try to keep the solution out of the eyes - it stings. If you have any cuts on your hands you might want to wear latex gloves for the same reason. <br />
After treatment, thoroughly rinse your pet with tepid tap water. <br />
Pour the spent solution down the drain with running water. <br />
NEVER, ever, store mixed solution in a closed bottle, sprayer,etc. Pressure will build up until the container bursts. This can cause severe injury. <br />
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1) Clean plastic mixing containers and utensils are preferred. Metals encourage auto-decomposition of the peroxide. <br />
2) Hydrogen Peroxide 3% solution is usually sold in pint (500ml) bottles, so you'll need two. The 3% grade is often marked "U.S.P.", meaning that it meets the standards for medical use and purity as set forth in the United States Pharmacopoeia. <br />
The use of other strengths/grades is not recommended unless you're a chemist, and even then a trip to the 24-hour drugstore is much better than a trip to the emergency room. <br />
3) Use baking soda, not baking powder. "Arm and Hammer" is one popular brand. Baking soda is also called: Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, U.S.P., Bicarbonate of Soda, and Sodium Hydrogen Carbonate. Do not confuse any of the above with Washing Soda, which is Sodium Carbonate. Washing Soda is about 100 times more alkaline than Baking Soda and can cause skin burns to both you and your pet. <br />
4) Two preferred brands are "Softsoap" and "Ivory Liquid". As far as auto-decomposition of the peroxide is concerned, the surfactant package in these two is fairly inert. Heavy-duty grease-cutting brands such as "Dawn" are less inert, and hair shampoo is probably the worst. <br />
5) Once mixed, the peroxide slowly breaks down into water and oxygen gas. Thus it gets weaker with time and so it should be used promptly. The exact rate depends on temperature, pH, and catalysts such as trace amounts of metals (iron,etc.) in the soap and/or tap water. <br />
How much pressure will the complete decomposition of 3% hydrogen peroxide produce in a closed container ??? It depends on how full the container is. Assuming negligible solubility of Oxygen in water, a bottle half-full of peroxide will develop about 140 psi. A bottle 3/4 full would develop 420 psi. This can do a lot of damage. <br />
Highly pure hydrogen peroxide decomposes very slowly if kept cool and in a dark place, a few percent a year. The more dilute solutions usually decompose faster (due to impurities in the dilution water) and have a trace of stabilizer added. So why aren't the bottles in the store bloated or bursting ? Look carefully inside the cap... you'll see some very tiny holes in the cap liner to let the oxygen gas escape. A good reason to always store bottles upright. <br />
Look for an expiration date on your peroxide. If you're using stuff which has been sitting around in your medicine cabinet for years, buy fresh peroxide. <br />
6) Tepid: lukewarm. <br />
7) All brand names mentioned in this website are trademarks of their various owners.<br />
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Thanks Norma for forwarding this information!Fall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9202230707781907579.post-64443222140843229452011-10-03T23:59:00.000-05:002011-10-03T23:59:24.624-05:00ChangesHow is it possible that my puppies could be almost unrecognizable after just 3 days away??? They grew so much and even changed color! Damita in particular lightened up so much (she was dark) that I mistook her for Darcy for a few moments.<br />
My boy Dover was still as cute as ever though!<br />
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<span style="color: black;">Let me start by saying that I became completely enamored of the Spanish Mastiff when I got my first one many years ago, and have been a strong advocate and "believer" in the breed ever since. <br />
There are issues that we are facing in the US that concerned me then and still do today...<br />
Establishing the Spanish Mastiff in North America has presented a number of challenges and though we are beginning to make headway, we still have a long road ahead of us to</span><span style="color: black;"> ensure that the breed is promoted honestly and bred only with integrity.<br />
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For some of us, the difficulty began in importing puppies that turned out to be less than the best of the breed. Historically, over-seas breeders have sold/sent pups that had genetic defects or did little to further establish a quality breeding program in the USA. Unfortunately, it is still happening from time to time. While some owners chose/choose not to breed these dogs, others did, and the less than excellent dogs were bred and pups sold across the country from these imports. <br />
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Fortunately, a few wonderful Spanish mastiffs that are true to type, temperament and function HAVE reached American soil, and hope remains alive that this breed can become recognized for all the fascinating attributes they possess. Responsible and careful breeding with an emphasis on health, temperament and the breed standard can only lead to better representatives of the breed across the country. There is a growing group of owners who are devoting themselves to this goal. Unfortunately, there are also a very few individuals who take great pride in thumbing their noses at those whose focus is the betterment of the breed...<br />
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Though many breed info sites still have incorrect data concerning the Spanish Mastiff, more accurate information has become available now than there was even 5 years ago and people have more opportunities to truly educate themselves about this breed and breeders BEFORE they take the gigantic first step to importing or even buying "local" in the USA. Beware of exagerated claims of height and weight in particular! <br />
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For those with a passion for this breed, or those just beginning to learn about them, there are some insights to be considered in looking at the way the breed is represented here, specifically in the United States. Promoting the best interest of this dog takes precedence over breeding for the sheer fact that you may happen to own one of these "rare breed" dogs. It is disappointing to receive a dog that you have pinned your hopes and dreams on, poured your heart into and made a member of your family, or spent time and resources training to become a valuable and integral part of your farm operation, only to lose it prematurely to a grave genetic health defect OR face up to the fact that your dog is not work or breeding material due to structural faults or weaknesses. It has happened to me with my first import as well as too many others here in the US.<br />
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Not all rare breed puppies grow into adult dogs that are suitable for breeding.<br />
Contrast the difference between the puppy that arrives with the full grown adult dog that develops... the changes can be monumental. Face it: all puppies are cute. When they arrive to this continent in their crate and they are peering out at you, it is easy to instantly fall in love and lose your ability to be impartial. Breeding a dog that has poor back legs, defective hips, genetic defects or obvious faults -some of which may not be apparent until maturity- is not doing a favor to anyone....especially for the good of establishing the breed in the USA or for the people who've spent their hard earned money to purchase such a dog. </span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0in 0in 10pt; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2;"><span style="color: black;">No animal is perfect and some less than desirable traits can be selectively improved upon with the proper genetic and linear knowledge, but you can't take two animals with poor legs or hips, breed them to each other and hope for the best! <br />
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Breeding with the intention of recouping expenses involved in importing your dog is not a good enough reason to breed. To the "average Joe", importing a dog takes considerable expense. The shipping costs, and fees involved in registering your dog, will almost always amount to MORE than the price of the imported pup itself. Vetting a giant breed dog is another out-of-pocket expense to be faced along with the costs of premium dog food.<br />
While tempting to trade-in on the "rare-breed" marketability feature, there are too many liabilities to face in doing so.<br />
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Line breeding vs inbreeding: <br />
The majority of the 100-130 Spanish mastiffs in the United States have one thing in common: the same Eastern European kennel. The successful breeding and marketing of this beautiful line of dogs combined with the ease in importing from an experienced exporter has lead to a predominance of Spanish mastiffs in the USA that trace back to basically one line. Clearly it is extremely important and critical that some new -unrelated- blood lines be brought over with which to work. This is a huge consideration when you discover someone that wants to breed Spanish mastiffs. Are the dogs related to each other? Examine the extended pedigrees carefully and question the party who fails to make readily available or produce this key element for pups they may market. This is where transparency becomes critical. Before line-breeding is undertaken it's essential to be aware of the potential risks vs benefits and to have a <u>very</u> clear health lineage on the dam and sire as well as having the experience to know what to look for in temperament and structure.<br />
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You will often see the catch-all word "typey" used to describe the Spanish Mastiff. <br />
Too often a breeder can use that phrase to describe an average or less than average dog that happens to have lots of skin or size as opposed to a dog that actually meets the AEPME standard for the breed.<br />
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For those looking for a superior working LGD:<br />
The Spanish Mastiff has what it takes to do an exceptional job guarding livestock or the farm from coyote, wolves, bear or lion - as is. They've been doing it for a long, long time and are quite good at it! They function and perform their tasks just fine if given the proper, experienced training and support. It is extremely important to maintain the purity of the breed here, not cross it with other LGD breeds. No good can come of crossing a magnificent breed such as the Spanish Mastiff with a more aggressive LGD breed and few people would be capable of handling the results of such a breeding. <br />
In my own personal opinion, if someone were to feel a need to cross the Spanish Mastiff with another LGD breed to "create" a better functioning LGD, I would have to question their knowledge of their own dogs!</span></div>Fall Creek Farm Spanish Mastiffshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02235351534236184758noreply@blogger.com1